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Star Trek's Star Destroyers
Today we look into the age old Comparison Between Various Star Trek Ships and the Iconic Imperial Star Destroyers From Star Wars. Examining the Merits of such a comparison. First looking at what makes a Star Destroyer and then comparing these qualities to the Romulan D'deridex, the Jem'hadar Battleship, and the Cardassian Hutet class. looking at the similarities and differences between these ships and the fleets that employ them.
Special thanks to Ryselle3D and the 4th Combined fleet for their renders
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Authur Harris Strikes Again! Battlespace Q&A
Просмотров 3 тыс.16 часов назад
Today i Answer your Questions from the latest Battlespace episode "Raptor Rising" looking at the historical inspiration behind it. The Intracacies of Romulan Politics, Future potential episodes, Legion Liveries, the Role of the Remans, and the minor powers of the Alpha Quadrant. STO Screenshots by the 4th Combined Fleet
'Raptor Rising' Battlespace: The Dominion War
Просмотров 11 тыс.14 дней назад
After their Initial successes in the Dominion War. the Romulan Navy now faces the Realities of Modern, Attritional, Total Warfare. forcing them to do more than simply rely on the Shock and Awe of their Warbirds. As the tide once again turns in the Dominions favour the emigmatic Admiral Zerix concieves a bold and controversial plan, to bring the war home to the people of cardassia, in devestatin...
The Logistics Of The Dominion War
Просмотров 11 тыс.21 день назад
Today we take an in depth look at how supply and logistics worked During the Dominion War. Whilst modern technologies like industrial replicators allowed the combatants to build massive armadas moving and supplying such forces proved to be a far greater challenge. in this video we examine the Various logistical challenges posed during wartime & and the different types of logistics which can be ...
What Do we Call this Ship? (Valdore/Mogai/Neorexan Class)
Просмотров 6 тыс.28 дней назад
Today we take an in depth look at the Iconic Valdore/Mogai/Neorexan class answering why this ship has so many Names? Why it is so divisive among fans? in so doing we will explore the unique features hidden under the surface of this supposedly simplistic Design... revealing a cutting edge battlecruiser built for the Dominion War. Special thanks to the 4th Combined fleet and my own community for ...
An Objective Analysis of the Z-1 Nova Class (Feat:@Drachinifel )
Просмотров 8 тыс.Месяц назад
After nearly two years the time has now come for me to take a second look at the Romulan Z-1 Nova Class Battleship. A ship with which i am intimately familar but that i have yet to fully Critique. Instead allowing my Romulan Bias to dictate its portrayal hitherto. now i return to ask if the ship is truly all i claimed it to be? Asking why it does not appear alongside its contemporaries in the D...
Why The Romulan Scout is Actually Genius
Просмотров 11 тыс.Месяц назад
Today we take a closer look at the Romulan Scoutship first appearing in TNGs "The Defector" and later as a science variant in "The Next Phase". these two small appearances tell us a lot about this humble vessel and its place in the Romulan fleet. While its Dominion war career was less than impressive. its near two decades of dutiful service behind the borders of the Romulan Star Empire tell a d...
Who Was Admiral Alynna Nechayev?
Просмотров 11 тыс.2 месяца назад
Who Was Admiral Alynna Nechayev?
The Enterprise B ABSOLUTELY had a Cloaking Device! (&some other lore)
Просмотров 24 тыс.2 месяца назад
The Enterprise B ABSOLUTELY had a Cloaking Device! (&some other lore)
How The Stargazer Almost Caused a Scandal
Просмотров 16 тыс.2 месяца назад
How The Stargazer Almost Caused a Scandal
What Yorktown Should have Been: Starfleet Headquarters
Просмотров 21 тыс.2 месяца назад
What Yorktown Should have Been: Starfleet Headquarters
The TRUE Ambassador class: Narendra/Probert Class
Просмотров 27 тыс.3 месяца назад
The TRUE Ambassador class: Narendra/Probert Class
Just As Kahless Intended...
Просмотров 5 тыс.3 месяца назад
Just As Kahless Intended...
Why the Ambassador Class is Underrated... Feat: @Drachinifel
Просмотров 70 тыс.3 месяца назад
Why the Ambassador Class is Underrated... Feat: @Drachinifel
Why Are Klingon Battleships so Insane? Feat: @scienceinsanity6927
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Why Are Klingon Battleships so Insane? Feat: @scienceinsanity6927
Why Did the Breen Attack Earth? (Battlespace Q&A)
Просмотров 11 тыс.3 месяца назад
Why Did the Breen Attack Earth? (Battlespace Q&A)
Why Halo's AA Guns Are Important
Просмотров 3,5 тыс.3 месяца назад
Why Halo's AA Guns Are Important
'The Breen Attack on Earth' Battlespace: The Dominion War
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'The Breen Attack on Earth' Battlespace: The Dominion War
An Irregular Fleet: Breen Fleet Doctrine & Organisation
Просмотров 32 тыс.4 месяца назад
An Irregular Fleet: Breen Fleet Doctrine & Organisation
Where Was the Enterprise in the Dominion War?
Просмотров 62 тыс.4 месяца назад
Where Was the Enterprise in the Dominion War?
Kor's Greatest Victory? The Battle of Klach D'kel Brakt
Просмотров 10 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Kor's Greatest Victory? The Battle of Klach D'kel Brakt
The Prometheus Problem...
Просмотров 35 тыс.5 месяцев назад
The Prometheus Problem...
Who Was Vorta Weyoun?
Просмотров 6 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Who Was Vorta Weyoun?
Why "The Augments" is my favorite Enterpise Story
Просмотров 5 тыс.5 месяцев назад
Why "The Augments" is my favorite Enterpise Story
Why Are Science Ships So Strange?
Просмотров 30 тыс.6 месяцев назад
Why Are Science Ships So Strange?
Media & Propaganda in The Dominion War
Просмотров 8 тыс.6 месяцев назад
Media & Propaganda in The Dominion War
The K'vort & Norgh Class: "We need a bigger BOP"
Просмотров 10 тыс.6 месяцев назад
The K'vort & Norgh Class: "We need a bigger BOP"
Who Was Admiral Willam Ross?
Просмотров 11 тыс.6 месяцев назад
Who Was Admiral Willam Ross?
A Bigger Gun: Kron Class Destroyer
Просмотров 11 тыс.7 месяцев назад
A Bigger Gun: Kron Class Destroyer
Klingon Warcrimes: Septimus 3 Q&A
Просмотров 5 тыс.7 месяцев назад
Klingon Warcrimes: Septimus 3 Q&A

Комментарии

  • @michaelkeha
    @michaelkeha 32 минуты назад

    Honestly I would like to see your assessment of the Harrower Class which I think is the biggest example of the technological decay Wars has from the Old Republic to the Imperial Era

  • @mrmudcatslim1004
    @mrmudcatslim1004 35 минут назад

    Pew pew pew pew pew pew pew pew 😍😍😍

  • @michaelkeha
    @michaelkeha 36 минут назад

    You say they are more advanced but due to some of the dumb numbers put out in some Star Wars books in reality it's not even close for example if we use the only known conversion for the Star Wars made up speed number to real numbers to make sense of any of the scenes in the movie each Star Destroyer would have to be about 4 times larger than a Voth Contitnent sized ship and literally every person in that universe moves always naturally at low light speeds so go figure and each turbo laser bolt has more energy in them then the combined firepower of every vessel in Trek put together (no I am not joking Star Wars has some of the most insane number gibberish you will ever see like a blaster pistol has the same energy output as 5 tsar bombas in some of the material)

  • @SPACECRUISER96
    @SPACECRUISER96 39 минут назад

    BSG is my favorite series. The series that made me into sci-fi and yeah I understand that S4 is lacking and most people I told to start BSG they all complain about it. But I am too biased to really complain and I just accept it.

  • @Relav1364
    @Relav1364 Час назад

    "Mine is bigger than yours!" - Every Starship Captain (and teenage boy) ever!

  • @grandmoffscott143
    @grandmoffscott143 Час назад

    To me the D'deridex class Warbird and the Imperial class Star Destroyer are both ships that represent the spectre and reality of total destruction.

  • @nealsterling8151
    @nealsterling8151 Час назад

    Fun video!

  • @sycyourtube
    @sycyourtube Час назад

    This might be a bit controversial but the borg cube is a bit of the star destroyer too. It projects instant fear. Has a balance of heavy, medium and light weapons. Has lots of tractor beams. Is much larger than any other sips mentioned in terms of volume. The only box left unchecked is the fighter complement. Which is arguably not needed for the Borg for multiple reasons. The Borg do not have the same goals or doctrine, but they do have similar needs. Speed, size, multi role adaptability and fear projection. They use this to instantly assimilate rather than dominate.

  • @lynngreen7978
    @lynngreen7978 2 часа назад

    Question on the D'Deridex (I'd asked before, but didn't see a reply). That big forward gun - the only one we ever see used. Is it just a big Disruptor, akin to the Dorsal/Ventral Phaser Arrays on a Galaxy? Or is it a Heavy Disruptor, akin to a Vor'cha's main gun?. Or the intermediate step up to the Negh'Var or Jem'Haddar Battleship Siege Guns?

  • @Underb00t
    @Underb00t 2 часа назад

    Reminds me of those days long ago where I played a lot of ST: Bridge Commander. Star Destroyer vs a Federation fleet. I guess its hard to balance a ship from a different franchise right.

  • @klaasbernd
    @klaasbernd 2 часа назад

    I think the CGI fits better. It sets the Romulans better apart from the Klingons and the looming overpowering shape is more in line with their buraucratic, political backstabbing, spycraft socieity.

  • @Albert23456
    @Albert23456 3 часа назад

    Never saw one in action against Dominion

  • @PsyckoSama
    @PsyckoSama 3 часа назад

    The real model was a much better rendition, much more raptor like.

  • @classreductionist
    @classreductionist 3 часа назад

    I've literally never once heard anyone compare the ISD to a Romulan D'Deridex Warbird. The Star Destroyer is a Capital Ship designed to project power. ISDs carry thousands of troops, an entire wing of fighters and other support craft, and guns capable of taking out fighters or capital ships. The D'Deridex Warbird is an Alpha Strike Stealth Battleship. It's an ambush predator using a cloak.

  • @johntaylor8095
    @johntaylor8095 3 часа назад

    I enjoyed it quite a bit and would like to see more videos in this style.

  • @davidbarnes6449
    @davidbarnes6449 4 часа назад

    I've seen online somewheres that the Hutet is much larger (practically twice the size but various lengths in wikis) and was just wondering what the sources were for this vids number? Great videos by the way, watched most of them multiple times:)

  • @therandomgamer3291
    @therandomgamer3291 4 часа назад

    The hutet looks like a giant mace flying through space.

  • @barracuda6900
    @barracuda6900 4 часа назад

    I would say the D'Deridex is far superior to an Imperial class Star Destroyer. As Generation Tech explains, the latter is kind of a White Elephant, despite it's terrifying (on paper) armament. I'm inclined to agree with him.

  • @richardkenan2891
    @richardkenan2891 4 часа назад

    The problem with the ISD is that it was almost all the Empire had as far as serious capital ships were concerned. It's too much ship to be as ubiquitous as the Empire needed them to be - too big, to expensive to build, and too demanding to properly crew. And it's not enough ship to be the backbone of big fleet actions. Yes, the Empire had other ships - mostly smaller ships - that it used, but not in anywhere near the numbers of the ISD. The ISD was reasonably effective at all its roles, but was not ideal for any of them. The Empire was big enough that it could have afforded more specialized designs.

  • @IAmTheAce5
    @IAmTheAce5 5 часов назад

    There was this channel called Generation Tech that did a Star Wars vs Star Trek matchup. I wonder if you might be interested in giving your take. (I stopped watching Generation Tech because their Rooting for the Empire schtick was getting annoying)

  • @IAmTheAce5
    @IAmTheAce5 5 часов назад

    Hutet: FEAR ME!!! SD: …who the hell is this?…

  • @lightningwingdragon973
    @lightningwingdragon973 6 часов назад

    Nuclear-powered freighters were things look up NS Savannah

  • @adrianjorgensen3750
    @adrianjorgensen3750 6 часов назад

    Anyone who says the star destroyer is over built and infective forget the rebels spent all their time running away from them.

  • @bertholdvonzahringen6799
    @bertholdvonzahringen6799 6 часов назад

    I would say the star destroyer has a comparison to Japanese or German ww2 battleships in terms off armaments. Both the bismark and yamato had multiple sized secondary armaments like a predreadnought but not due to having a lack of fire control to support an all big gun armament, more so a that they could not field a single all purpose secondary battery. The yamato had 6 inch secondaries for anti ship work and 5 inch secondaries for dual purpose work, and a ton of smaller aa guns, similar to the bismark. These came with inefficiencies compared to other more standardized secondary armaments but this was counteracted by their sheer size. This in my opinion better compares to the star destroyers.

  • @hansebee
    @hansebee 7 часов назад

    Uh oh at 18:43 now that is your best bet for a next topic. Because, think about it... Is it really? :)

  • @scotthughes7208
    @scotthughes7208 7 часов назад

    Really enjoyed the vid. Thanks.

  • @stanislavkostarnov2157
    @stanislavkostarnov2157 7 часов назад

    a Star-Destroyer is more like a Borg Cube...both in philosophy (assimilation being much more like what the Empire does) & in technical capability - (an ability to do everything that is violent & evil.)

  • @miriam4235
    @miriam4235 8 часов назад

    Very interesting. Thanks 👍

  • @chrisortega7521
    @chrisortega7521 8 часов назад

    As always, you're SPOT ON! Thank you so much for your insightful comprehension on the everything!

  • @richardchild6708
    @richardchild6708 9 часов назад

    I think Jem Hader battleship looks more scary than an imperial star destroyer.

  • @flagninja3662
    @flagninja3662 9 часов назад

    I'm glad I got my Eaglemoss XL D'deridex model before they went out of business

  • @AnubisGog
    @AnubisGog 9 часов назад

    Next video - Jean Luc Picard vs Emperor of Mankind 40000)))

  • @avsbes98
    @avsbes98 9 часов назад

    I really like the concept of thius video. I would be interested though to see a follow up to this also taking into account Beta canon ships to see if more factions have a SD-equivalent in the books and games.

  • @birdmonster4586
    @birdmonster4586 9 часов назад

    ISDs are very cool but. Mon Calamari ships > ISD.

  • @robertkalinic335
    @robertkalinic335 10 часов назад

    Nah, i dont buy this weapon of terror bonus points. There is assumption that you wouldn't go against something that looks imposing, thats pretty much any armed spaceship if you dont have anything to hurt it, just park it above city and blow up big bell tower or smthng. Every scifi ship is imposing from right angle. The fact that you can make any weapon terrorizing simply by not being seen like drones makes this focus on looks hysterical.

  • @jaredcolon4535
    @jaredcolon4535 10 часов назад

    Take a shot every time Venom says strategic

  • @TheTb2364
    @TheTb2364 10 часов назад

    It's funny that you need a star trek channel to acknowledge how multorole ISD is. Most star wars discourse focuses on comparing it to the piece of trash Venator.

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886 7 часов назад

      Yeah. I guess it's not being immersed in all the secondary material and just going off what's on screen

  • @michaeldougherty2807
    @michaeldougherty2807 10 часов назад

    No one seems to consider how OP transporters could be, especially combined with a cloaking device. Beam a warhead into the engine room.

  • @TheTb2364
    @TheTb2364 10 часов назад

    I wouldn't agree that ISD isn't psychologically imposing. It was one of, if not the biggest mass produced warship in the entire history of star wars galaxy (with the only contender being lucrehulk which was 50% empty space on the inside). Also while patrol vessel is a closest naval analogue, you could even call it a mobile occupation garrison.

  • @BlastHardcheeseable
    @BlastHardcheeseable 11 часов назад

    No mention of the Scimitar? Similar heavy assault role as the Jem'hadar battleship, but carries a ton of small fighters. It took a beating from three other capital ships and still held together while wiping the floor with them all. Plus it had a planet-killing (depopulation bomb) weapon long before it was considered to mount one on a Star Destroyer by the Star Wars writers.

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886 8 часов назад

      @@BlastHardcheeseable no because scimitar is silly.

  • @jenniferstewarts4851
    @jenniferstewarts4851 11 часов назад

    A gun for every occation - a lot of ww2 battleships fall into this category too. While the US had Dual Purpose Guns... not every navy did.. this lead to things like the bismark, 8x15", 12x5.9"(anti- destroyer), 16x4.1" (high alt aa), 16x37mm (low alt aa) 12x20mm (aa) The iowa class just used DP guns so, 9x16", 20x5", 80x40m, and 49x40mm. having 4-6 different types of guns was pretty common for warships...

  • @Xhaleon
    @Xhaleon 11 часов назад

    Cardassian ships kind of look like squids. Yeah not the most intimidating of animals. Even the mythical giant krakens are more goofy than scary.

  • @JohnNathanShopper
    @JohnNathanShopper 11 часов назад

    I dunno if the Star Destroyer is canonically well-defended against fighters. ROTJ had them hitting X-wings, but Rogue One had a handful of Y-wings just straight up one-shot a Star Destroyer with ion weapons.

    • @venomgeekmedia9886
      @venomgeekmedia9886 7 часов назад

      Yeah but that's is a more recent film. If it were really so easy why wouldn't they do it all the time

  • @donovanbradford8231
    @donovanbradford8231 11 часов назад

    One of the things about the Imperial Star Destroyer that sets it apart from many of the star ships from Star Trek is that the ISD is a one size fits all, attack vessel, aircraft & trooper carrier, and patrol vessel. Where as each fleet in Star Trek has specific ships for almost all the purposes. That being said if any of the ships in Star Trek were to come up against a ISD in a fight the biggest advantage they have are actually there sensors which are far above the ISD. Because ISD are designed if you were to fusion every type of ship a modern navy would have then toss it into space. But the ISD lack effective weapons for every occasion we see this in Empire Stikes Back when the fleet arrives at Hoth the realize the defensive shield is strong enough to repel any orbital bombardment. Vs Trek most ships can not oy carry out that type of attack but do to the power level of their weapons could have taken Hoth easily. The other big issue is how the ISD shields are set up through a fixed point that is unprotected so any vessel wanting to challenge an ISD would scan it see two massive weak points and begin firing there and given the range and level of accuracy of said weapons an ISD wouldn't last long against most vessels not only on this list but even Borg, Federation, Klingon, Ferengi, and a few others. The ISD is not only a jack of all tradrs but proof why being thst isn't a good thing.

  • @Neonwavegamer2080
    @Neonwavegamer2080 11 часов назад

    It's pretty interesting with sci-fi fi Starships like the Galaxy Class, Constitution Class, Dedex Class, the Imperial II Class Star Destroyer and probably the most terrified one the Borg Cube but that's just my opinion but I do like their creativity in sci-fi Starships

  • @JohnNathanShopper
    @JohnNathanShopper 11 часов назад

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